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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:19 pm 
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Hi all, looking to head over to rent for 6 months with a view to buy.

I'm about the purchase a new car in the UK and thinking if I should get a left-hand drive and the tax implications of buying a diesel.

Like over in the UK, does the mpg outway the cost of owning a 2010 2ltr diesel?

Any help or guidance would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:27 pm 
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Diesel is still a fair bit cheaper here than Petrol but we seem to be getting told that Diesel fumes are now a bad thing and we should be moving back to petrol or away from it all together and on to Hybrid and all Electric.

If a move outside UK is definite then choose a LHD but why buy it in the UK ? Buy in Germany or Belgium where they are way cheaper, go for something about a year old and save yourself a bundle. Import into PT is not that hard to do and not that expensive.

Example... Friends just bought a 2017 Range Rover Evoque. Portuguese price for a new car €62k (with their chosen extras admittedly) Price of 1 year old car with same spec in Germany €33k - cost of import €8.5k other costs (delivery, inspection, plates, fees €1k). They chose one with 5500kms on the clock and it looks like it came out of the showroom. A saving of €20k and even in 3/4 years, as a Portuguese vehicle it will still be worth more than the value they paid so zero depreciation during that time.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:49 pm 
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Thanks for the reply

Maybe ill just get a cheap car for 6 months to keep me going until I'm 100% of the next plans.

I did also look at a long term rental...

If we were bringing the car in for 6 months would we have to pay tax?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:24 am 
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ECoughtrey wrote:
> Thanks for the reply
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> Maybe ill just get a cheap car for 6 months to keep me going until I'm 100%
> of the next plans.
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> I did also look at a long term rental...
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> If we were bringing the car in for 6 months would we have to pay tax?

Hi

Why buy and bring a car here and pay the tax when you can import it tax free.

You need to have any car registered at your home address for at least 12 months. You need proof via bills Gas, Electric., Internet and the more the better.

The cost to import a car tax free when i did mine was a little under 500€ this covered all charges and fees.

The place to start is the local Customs department where you will get the forms you need to fill in. Get from the car maker a Certificate of Conformity in both English and Portuguese.

Don't be put out by the language at the Customs i went to they had staff who spoke English. After getting the forms from Customs i went out the next morning and by 2.14pm that afternoon my car was legal.

Since i got my car made legal in Portugal there may have been some changes to the procedure but none i am aware of.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:50 pm 
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Do you know if to import a car tax free you have to be RESIDENT in Portugal ?

Or is it sufficient to own a place, as I do, and have a Número Fiscal, as I also do ?

( I have a little Clio which I could make better use of in Portugal ~ I think it's 1.6 litres engine , petrol. 2006 first registration in UK .)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:05 pm 
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No such thing as a cheap car in Portugal, an old banger is still likely to be 4-5,000 euros as opposed to 1-2,000 gbp in the UK. Options that I see for you:

1. Buy a new car in the UK, wait at least 6 months before officially moving to Portugal (make sure you have all house hold bills etc so you can prove the 6 months of UK residence) and then import it tax free (allow up to 800 euros in costs if your going to use an agent for this/ head light changes/petrol etc). You can be in Portugal house hunting during this time, but not resident here.

2. Bring the Cleo down until, don't become resident here, house hunt, return the Cleo to the UK when becoming resident here or try to sell it or scrap it here.

As a resident of Portugal your not allowed to drive a vehicle with a foreign license plate (which goes against the EU free movement of goods imho).


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:28 am 
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You cannot import a car tax free unless you're changing your country of residence. For this you'd be expected to register as a resident with Finanças (and I assume that'd be checked before the ISV exemption was granted).

A foreign-registered car can remain in Portugal for up to 6 months with no formalities. It can be driven about freely during that time including by someone intending to become resident. That person is supposed to register their presence with the local authority by the time 120 days have elapsed since their arrival. There is a grace period with regard to the initiation of the re-registering of the car, which allows for a lapse between registration of person and car but you should start the car re-registration process as soon as possible after registering residence.

The rules on registered residents not driving foreign-plated cars are EU-wide but a foreign-plated car can be driven by non-resident visitors and, in the case of its being in the process of re-registration, by some family members even if they are resident, along with the owner.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:43 pm 
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Question on this:
Can you be resident in Portugal, own a UK car, but only drive it in Spain and France for example (getting a UK MOT etc as needed via trips to the UK)?
ie: There's nothing about your being resident in Portugal that prevents you driving a non Portuguese car outside of Portugal?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:44 pm 
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It might be possible, subject to having somewhere to keep the car in the UK (otherwise you'll have permanently exported it) and getting insurance.

A lot of bother considering you'll be in Portugal for at least six months each year, without any car!

If you really don't want to drive in Portugal it would probably be easier to buy a French car for France and Spain or a Spanish car for Spain and France.

Or just buy a Portuguese car you could use all year round in any of the three countries.


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