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 Post subject: Guia de Transporte
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:22 am 
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Hello,
Relatives on the Algarve, have recently had some curtains delivered and the company supplying them, had to have a Guia de Transporte which details the vans contents, the fiscal number of the recipient and the start and end times of the delivery. Can anyone explain the purpose of this and the circumstances under which one is needed please?

We are not in Portugal yet, but is it something I need to be aware of? Does it only apply to commercial deliveries or private journeys as well?

Or is there a big problem with black market curtains in Portugal?

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Graham


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 Post subject: Re: Guia de Transporte
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:54 pm 
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I think you will find the dividing line very close over here between private and commercial You haven't mentioned but I assume the curtains were imported, if that's the case they will need to be tracked for VAT etc.
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 Post subject: Re: Guia de Transporte
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:17 pm 
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The curtains were locally made. If the Guia is to prove ownership or purpose of journey, what is the position if someone is transporting personal property? All very puzzling.


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 Post subject: Re: Guia de Transporte
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:21 am 
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It's for transport of goods in commercial vehicles only - doesn't apply if you're taking your shopping home in a private car.

The intent is to clamp down on fraud and tax evasion. There are probably a lot of people who think Portugal is riddled with fraud and tax evasion. There are probably a lot of people think this is a load of unnecessary bureaucracy. There'll probably be some people who belong in both groups Image


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 Post subject: Re: Guia de Transporte
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:13 pm 
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It's also due to the fact if they are stopped by the GNR for whatever reason they have proof they are delivering an item rather than any other dubious means.


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 Post subject: Re: Guia de Transporte
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:20 pm 
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It's just one off the many laws that baffle people !
But if you are a commercial & cant supply a "guia" you have problems,& likely a fine.
Many years back in the Algarve the GNR stopped a commercial ,he had a "guia" but it was held together with a paper clip, the law is, it had to be a staple !
250.00€ Fine - I kid you not!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Guia de Transporte
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:44 pm 
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Thank you for all the information. I wasn't thinking so much about a trip to the supermarket, but carrying commercial items if I move the business out to Portugal with me. Will continue to investigate.

Graham


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 Post subject: Re: Guia de Transporte
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:13 pm 
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X Camone wrote:
There are probably a lot of people think this is a load of unnecessary bureaucracy. There'll probably be some people who belong in both groups Image


And yet nobody ever makes comment about the need for commercial vehicle operators in the UK needing to be in possession of a delivery note when carrying goods.

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 Post subject: Re: Guia de Transporte
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:35 pm 
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Old Bloke wrote:
X Camone wrote:
There are probably a lot of people think this is a load of unnecessary bureaucracy. There'll probably be some people who belong in both groups Image


And yet nobody ever makes comment about the need for commercial vehicle operators in the UK needing to be in possession of a delivery note when carrying goods.


This was a question asked on a site based on PORTUGAL !!!
UK rules & reg's are NOT RELEVANT

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 Post subject: Re: Guia de Transporte
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Joe K wrote:
Old Bloke wrote:
X Camone wrote:
There are probably a lot of people think this is a load of unnecessary bureaucracy. There'll probably be some people who belong in both groups Image


And yet nobody ever makes comment about the need for commercial vehicle operators in the UK needing to be in possession of a delivery note when carrying goods.


This was a question asked on a site based on PORTUGAL !!!
UK rules & reg's are NOT RELEVANT


And the question has been answered.

It is also a site that exchanges views and information. The information I provided was done so to indicate that PT is not alone in requiring drivers of commercial vehicles to have delivery notes.

P.S. If you look at the forum home page you will find a section titled "Non Portugal Stuff". That would indicate that discussion about non PT relevant things is not forbidden.

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